{"id":48,"date":"2005-12-06T06:40:36","date_gmt":"2005-12-06T12:40:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.the-erm.com\/?p=48"},"modified":"2005-12-10T07:52:16","modified_gmt":"2005-12-10T13:52:16","slug":"review-dvdr05zu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.the-erm.com\/?p=48","title":{"rendered":"Review \/ Comparison  ilo DVDR05ZU &#8211; DVDR05MU"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are many differences between the ilo dvdr05 MU, and ZU.  So many I felt like I had to list them.<\/p>\n<p>The ZU from the get go wasn&#8217;t even close to the same level of features\/bugs as the MU.<\/p>\n<p>After 2 weeks of using the ZU, I didn&#8217;t feel like burning $100 in an ash tray.<\/p>\n<p>The interface is so different that these units should not be sold in the same box. <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The thing that bothers me most about the ZU is that there is no Mo-Fr scheduling option, other than that it&#8217;s been a good unit.  I keep waiting for a firmware update where someone somewhere decides to add Mo-Fr, until then I&#8217;m forced to make a trip to the scheduling menu every Friday night and disable the option.<\/p>\n<table border='1' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4'>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Function<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>MU<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>Points<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>ZU<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>Points<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Source<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Click source 3 times, or click source once, and then right\/left 3 times<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-1<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Click source once, then left once<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Plays DVD-Video<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Nope failed at every attempt<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-5<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>So Far<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">A-B Editing<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Yes<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>+2<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>No<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Delete Title Bug<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Not that I noticed<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>+5<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Sometimes deletes the whole disk when only selecting 1 title.  Firmware upgrade causes nothing to be deleted.<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Mo-Fr<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Allows you to schedlue Mo-Fr, Daily, Once, and Weekly<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>+3<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Only Once, Daily, Weekly<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Scheduling Length<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Allow you to set the length of your scheduled recording. 1:00 for 1 hour. :30 min etc.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>+3<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Annoying &#8230; set date time.  Even 11-22-05 is required spans a day when the time is changed.  Not a good feature. It&#8217;s cumbersome.  Firmware upgrade made it a little better don&#8217;t ask my why or how.<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Specific Brands of media required<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>If you advertise you work with DVD+RW you should work with DVD+RW\/+R <b>NO MATTER WHAT BRAND IT IS!!!!!<\/b>  If I had a VCR that didn&#8217;t work for memorex VCR tapes, but would for maxcell I would return it and not even think twice!  If the box says DVD+RW then it should work with any brand of dvd+rw.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-10<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>If you advertise you work with DVD+RW you should work with DVD+RW\/+R <b>NO MATTER WHAT BRAND IT IS!!!!!<\/b>  If I had a VCR that didn&#8217;t work for memorex VCR tapes, but would for maxcell I would return it and not even think twice!  If the box says DVD+RW then it should work with any brand of dvd+rw.<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-10<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Skips when recording<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>I costantly had this thing skipping.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-5<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Doesn&#8217;t seem to &#8211; more testing required<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Plays Preview from title\/edit menu for selected title<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>No &#8211; Just a still image<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>0<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Yes &#8211; At first seemed like a cool feature &#8230; it gets a little annoying.<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>0<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Firmware<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Downloading official firmware, and installing voids your warrenty if not told to do so<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-5<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Downloading official firmware, and installing voids your warrenty if not told to do so<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">CM Skip During Schedlued Recordings<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Can&#8217;t use the commercial skip button during recording a scheduled event.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-2<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>You can skip commercials whenever you&#8217;re recording<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">FF, REW speed while playing<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Up to 20 x.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>+3<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Only up to 3x<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Red Rec Bubble<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>No red record bubble while recording<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>+2<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Annoying record bubble while recording<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Memory<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Remembers where you were on the disk if you insert it. With an option to turn it off<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>+1<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>No memory, and no way to turn it on\/off<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Audio Options<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>You can select a lot of different Audio options<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>+2<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>None<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Video Quality<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>At 8hours it was worse than the zu.  The MU skipped shoot it skipped no matter what.  It would have been great at hop sckotch<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-3<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>8 hr mode was just about as good as a VCR at 8 hrs using a T-160 tape.<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Record back to back shows on different channels<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>The MU did not do this out of the box, after a firmware upgrade it did, but always skipped.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-5<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Out of the box you could record shows back to back on different channels, it didn&#8217;t complain at all.<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Overheating issues<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>It seemed like this thing needed to operate inside a fridge.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-5<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Yippie seems to operate all day long at room temprature 60-80 F<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Weird Sounds While Playing\/Recording<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Yes the more high pitched chirping sounds, the worse the skipping on playback.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-5<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>No<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Schedule Events<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>8<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-1<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>10<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Operates 24hrs a day<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>It would&#8217;t even last 1 hr without complaining.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>-10<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>It has worked after leaving it on, and running for several hours, and even days.<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>+10<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Repeat<\/td>\n<td class='MU'>Repeat options are title, chapter, a-b, and all.<\/td>\n<td class='MU' align='right'>+2<\/td>\n<td class='ZU'>Repeat title, chapter, and a-b.<\/td>\n<td class='ZU' align='right'>-2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>-34<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>If you are going to get one of these, I recommend getting a ZU.  The main reason is &#8211; for the most part &#8211; it worked out of the box.  <b>I would not recommend getting either of these<\/b>.  Due to the fact that if you buy a product, and it clearly says on the box what it should do, and it doesn&#8217;t, then why buy it?  I believe it&#8217;s called false advertising.  2 out of 2 products had something that didn&#8217;t work quite right.  For $100 I expect the equipment to function.  I don&#8217;t feel like going back a 3rd &#8211; and possibly a 4th time to find a functioning device.  Maybe I&#8217;ll watch for the next firmware upgrade, and install it for the ZU.<\/p>\n<p>The ZU has 2 major issues.  #1 Doesn&#8217;t delete titles right. #2. No Mo-Fr for scheduling.<\/p>\n<p>The MU never really worked right.<\/p>\n<p>Things I don&#8217;t understand.  Why only 8\/10 events?  You can write the date, in 3 bytes, time in 2 bytes length in 2 bytes input device or channel 1 byte.  By my count that&#8217;s 8 bytes total for an event.  That means in 1k &#8211; thats 1024 bytes &#8211; I could set up to 128 events.  That of course is programing in an 8 bit world.  The &#8216;date&#8217; could also serve for setting Mo-Fr, Daily, or Weekly.  So it&#8217;s totally possible to do it in 8 bytes per event.<\/p>\n<p>Since this is not an 8 bit world.  I could write the date as utc 1133873781 today that&#8217;s 10 bytes for the time.  I&#8217;d also set up the length as a utc.  So 1 hour from now would be 1133877381.  That&#8217;s still only 21 bytes including a space.  I could still keep the input device\/channel as 1 byte.  Because there are only 140 channels at most, and then I&#8217;d make 141 dv, 142 input 1, 143, input 2 144, and svideo 145.  This still makes our string we&#8217;re saving 24 bytes &#8211; 1 more space 1 more byte and a \\n (that&#8217;s a new line for those of you who don&#8217;t know aka return &#8211; enter). So for the sake of argument we could make it 25 bytes long.  In theory this set up would work until Sat, 06 Sep 2014 22:50:07 -0600.  Then the device may suffer from something similar to &#8216;y2k&#8217;.  With a bloated data structure like this you could still program 40 events <i><b>In 1k<\/b><\/i> <\/p>\n<p>Granted I don&#8217;t know that much about C++ or even Machine language, but I&#8217;m pretty sure if you gave me a year I could write a pretty decent timer set up with an 8 byte per even structure.<\/p>\n<p>Overall the dvdro5 ZU has worked much better than the MU.  I must say this about the MU, if my experience hadn&#8217;t been so bad with it, it&#8217;s features would have worked nicely.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are many differences between the ilo dvdr05 MU, and ZU. So many I felt like I had to list them. The ZU from the get go wasn&#8217;t even close to the same level of features\/bugs as the MU. 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